observation
 

it seems to me jumble town is being abused, the same people are posting first time and again, how many cars, tvs, stereos and SALEABLE items does one person need? hoiw many jumbletowners with multiple id's? There is no point donating items to enrich others. not much point in looking for stuff either usually the same people (do none of them work or is this their work?) getting in first or else its some idiot looking for the hardest hard luck story to win a mental raffle s/he is having hardest getting a broken bedside lamp or a bent spoon!

your obesrvation
 

Im sorry your not happy with Jt but its up to the giver who gets what first or last Also there may be a few sellers on here but i dont think there are many Most are just ordinary folk trying to get by and helping to recycle Thats what this site is all about as to lots of cars and sterios we do not get many cars so those looking have to try each one
Now as to work well i do im just home from work and a lot of people on here are mothers with children so they are more than welcome Ihope you get whatever you are after so i wish you good luck in your search

from Admin
 

Hi wildepigge,

In the eyes of Admin, no abuse is taking place. Since the inception of the site, our policy has been that all JumbleTowners are regarded as equal. Neither Admin nor Members have any way of determining the “neediness” or otherwise of a Taker.

Takers can be individuals who intend to use items themselves or perhaps even sell them on. The latter activity may be unpopular with some Members but it’s not against the rules of the Forum. Once an item has been collected, the Taker can do whatever they wish with the item. Neither the Giver nor Admin can dictate or determine the Taker’s activities off the Board/Forum.

One view of Takers who sell (and they are very much in the minority) is that they are are entrepreneurs of sorts. As I said above, who can tell what their circumstances are? They could be recently laid-off or struggling to pay a mortgage, and if they can make a few bob by going to the trouble of collecting an item and then HOPING to sell it, then Admin says, good luck to them. However, anyone who thinks thay can collect a lot of items and then quickly sell them on is probably in for a surprise, as furniture in particular depreciates massively in value. So, someone, somewhere, may have a sitting-room full of items they can't sell/shift. What can they do with all this stuff? Well, they could put it on JumbleTown!

Givers of items should be aware that JumbleTown is not a charity site – if it were, we would have applied for charity-status and all that that entails. The site’s raison d’etre is primarily to help people pass on unwanted items in the hope that unnecessary landfill and premature recycling will be avoided or at least deferred.

Admin’s view is that the primary concern of Givers should be the desire to free up space in their home/workplace in an environmental way that helps the community. If they specifically wish for their item not to be sold-on, they should state this on their ad, but of course, they have no way of knowing the fate of their item once Taken. If Givers want to be certain that their item goes to a charitable cause or what they may consider to be a "charity-case", then they should contact their local charities rather than post on JumbleTown.

Finally, as JumbleTowner, misstake, stated above, Givers are free to give to whomever they like, be it the first or tenth respondent. Therefore, being first to post an expression of interest does not mean that you'll receive an item.

Thank for the feedback.

Regards
Chris P
Admin

and also,,
 

Hi Chris, my point is, I believe, valid,. I have both an excellent car and stereo so i need neither. looking over the site I see the same people looking for the same things over and over, some even leave thanks for getting the item and they are still looking for the same item??? If someone can sit and surf all day so as to be in first it disadvantages lots of people who work. I appreciate that people can do what they like with their property I personally find "the best cause/story/convincing tale etc" gets it somewhat tacky. I have given things and recieved things gratefully fronm this and another site. Until they wear out or I can afford new ones they stay
the site is great and i'm sure more than me found things we needed.
thanks PK

But surely the idea of putting something on jt is to get rid of UNWANTED stuff.

reply
 

if it's unwanted why have a voyeuristic psychological analysis of the takers needs?????

takers
 

All observations above deserve hearing.The choice is with the giver.It is annoying to see all the things you have stated.You are right pidge and chris is right.I look at the requesters previous post both here and on other sites,It can then be decided their merit.Dealers leave patterns and the choice to shun them or enrich them is as stated with the giver.This is one excellent site and deserves all the support of its members.If any one giving thinks they are going to be exploited by a taker then simply ignore their posts.

are you suggesting that people who do not work (outside of the home) do nothing but surf jumbletown? as a mum and student i can assure you that is not the case, also either you like jt or you dont, you receive from the site and yet you dont like how it works? i for one love jumbletown and most people here are genuine, helpful and friendly... and i am glad to be a jtowner! kiara

from Admin
 

So does Admin -- that's why we remove such comments from Givers' ads.

By the way, it should be fairly obvious that the vast majority of Givers do not indulge in such practices. Most who do are "newbies," but they soon learn that we don't allow it.

Regards
Chris P
Admin

reply
 

With all its sham, drudgery & broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
and jumbletown is still the best site we are allowed to criticise those we love
thanks to Max Ehrmann

from Admin
 

Too true, wildepigge. As D.H. lawrence said, "the proper function of a critic is to save the tale from the artist who created it."

Regards
Chris P
Admin

I have a somewhat related question.

I have been giving stuff away recently and I notice that some posters seem to be first with an 'I am interested' reply within minutes, only to show no further interest and not even reply to PMs etc.

Is it possible that some people have worked out an automated reply system to get themselves first in line to give them a chance to check an item out later?

I imagine most people are, like me, working on a 'first come, first served' basis.

and also,,
 

maybe, i know lots of ebay sellers have automated feedback mechanismsso its possible they would have to use keywords because they dont reply to all postings, i wonder if professor frink is on jumbletown.....

There is no automated reply system to get people first in line. Its basically the luck of the draw to be first in line.
Also myself and most of the jumbletowners i know do not work on a first come first served basis.
My point is that people who work outside the home and does who work in the home derserve as much of a chance as the next person. Thats why i very seldom go on a first come basis. I feel that every one is equal and deserves to be treated the same.
Well thats my opinion on the mather.
Enough said.

from Admin
 

Dealga, it's technically possible but very unlikely. I haven't seen any evidence of this happening. In any case, Givers are free to give to whomever they like, be it the first or tenth respondent.

Regards
Chris P
Admin

Hiya wildepigge, like this thread. It's good to get debates going. The ebay automated feedback mechanism is a tool on ebay. Ebay provide that function. It works only on positive feedback received and so it automatically gives positive feedback. The seller chooses the wording - normally short. I haven't seen any tools like that on this site but I also wonder sometimes how people get in so quick on so much stuff. I think some of it are newcomers who are amazed that people are giving good stuff for free and put in for it all and then realise that they'd have to collect it all if they won and they back off! Some of it is possibly timing, not everyone who works is on a 9 to 5 job. Online when the stuff comes on? Sure what odds in the end anyway, it seems to sort itself out in most cases and sure most people on this site love it so it's working! Enough ranting. Happy Christmas all and good night - I must sleep zzzzzzzzz

Re: *
 

I'm off this site now i was censored the last 2 posts i made, humour seems to be sadly lacking here as well as in the country. happy christmas to you and yours bluecurlygirl :)

I totally agree.

Getting in First.
 

Maybe this is too simplistic a solution to the reason why some people get in first on a regular basis.


If you subscribe to a thread you get E mail notification of new posts.
Some people have mobile phones that can get E mail.

Its therefore easy enough to have your mobile phone alert you if there is a new post on a particular thread, click on the email and if you want the item or feel that you may want the item all you have to do is reply from your mobile phone.

Subscribe to thread--- get an email update-- view the new posting via internet on your mobile --- respond to the post via internet from your mobile phone.

Thats how I think it works anyway.

However in my experience, if you're interested in an item you're better off to express your interest in it, be you the first second or tenth person asking for it, because it appears that for whatever reason those expressing an interest before you on the list may have to withdraw that interest.

I have recieved some great things, and I think I was first on the list of those expressing an interest only once.


Fries.

It does depend on how fast you can type too. I don't have a problem in that area as I can type 69 words per minute but I have often not been first in line. In fact, I was first in line only twice. Once for myself and once when I asked (not knowing it was prohibited) for something for someone else. I have gotten two items from the luvverly people here when I wasn't first in line...

Then again, if you reply to an offered ad with no please or thank you, you could end up ignored. Not saying anyone in particular does that - but you get my meaning... Manners don't cost anything, and it's nice to be nice. :-D

Just my two cents worth...

I definately agree with you on the manners issue Mandy, Kiara x

from Admin
 

Hi wildepigge,

I've no recollection of censoring (or indeed censuring) you. It's Admin's job to remind Members of the site's function, and it's rules and policies. We remove posts that are off-topic and those that may be offensive or construed as inflammatory.

Regards
Chris P
Admin

reply
 

Hi Chris
2 recent posts were deleted, a lady had mice and I jokingly suggested she make a stew with them she is a vegetarian so obviously this solution was unacceptable. I then suggested she look for a fairy godmother that needed 4 mice to pull a pumpkin pantomime season and all that both were removed. heavy handed i'd say.
anyway happy Chriistmas to all

happy xmas
 

oh im sure it wasent serious sure its the season to e happy merry christnas to all and enjoy yourselves dont take life to serious ---- its short enough xx

from Admin
 

Hi wildepigge,

Posts on threads should relate to the Giving and Taking process or be genuinely helpful. Admin regularly receives PMs from Members complaining about others "spoiling" their threads. This means more work for Admin and we already have enough of that.

Regards
Chris P
Admin

I'm totally on board with the manners. In anything in life I think you may not always get what you want but you'll get treated a little nicer if you are polite and mannerly. And maybe a kind word endears you to the giver - so what? I've got three things on this site and was only in first for one of them. I think I was about tenth for another! Stay on awhile wildepigge. Get to know things a little better. It really is a wonderful place on here. Lots of genuine people that I have become friendly with. I love it.

I like when people make a point and are heard, it's great! Both sides are usually correct to some degree. I usually have a look at people's previous posts if I'm going to go to the trouble of buying wrapping and driving to the post office, babe in arms and hand over my hard earned cash to post someone something- It's easy to spot someone who is selling stuff as they usually have a van and only take furniture- I noticed a poster who had 3 kids in November and 2 kids in December- I honestly hope nothing happened to one of her kids or maybe she forgot which yarn she was spinning- lol- now , I'm joking here, seriously it's great to get something off your chest all of a sudden it begins to pale into insignificance- lol- sometimes I rant and rave and then I feel so silly - so I put plenty of lol's in my comment - Please don't take me too seriously- EVER lol

I have thought this also from time to time (some people must have worked out an automated reply system) but I have noticed their names and I think other JTers notice their names also and get wary of them. We just have to be careful. You just get to know people after a while. I wouldn't like to think my items were to be sold on afterwards either. No one would. There is another excellent site if one wants to sell stuff.

replies
 

First of all let me assure people that automated reply is not possible without sites permission.People who reply within seconds are those who are online at the moment and are quick enough to reply.Some people are lucky enough to be able to stay online. This is not possible for everyone but thats the luck of the draw.Be lucky or dont,dont blame anyone or anything.

I totally agree
 

I thought the purpose of this site was for givers to clear items they don't want anymore. What does it matter how quickly a taker replys. Either give the stuff away with good intentions or don't. I often sit with my laptop on my knee and often look to see whats new. So if I reply first so what. It seems to me that this site is being used by people who want to make friends or influence people - so are swapping items accordingly. I think this is a great site and does exactly what it says on the tin. If anyone thinks there is something sinister going on I suggest they get a life. If people are willing to take the time and energy to sell things on fair play to them. If anyone begrudges giving an item away have they thought about going to the time and trouble of selling it themselves. They may even make friends in the real world then instead of in the virtual world of jt.

observation
 

surfing jumbletown to make friends or INFLUENCE people? lol

l have to put my few words here! l think jters are one of (if not the) friendliest bunch of people l,ve ever being on line with and if l put things on its to declutter so who ever get my unwanted items are very welcome to them l don,t think its very fair to judge the taker and after all its up to the giver who get what.lf you think someone doesn,t deserve something just don,t give it,simple as that imo.