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BillieT 04-10-2009 08:20 PM

Plant -- Does anyone know what this is pls?
 
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Hi All

Can anyone tell me the name of this plant - Its from a seed I picked up from the ground in Florida. I had no intention of replanting it so I never looked to see what the mother plant looked like.

I planted it in a small pot a couple months ago - but it only started growing about week ago.

Its very strange looking - it looks like an animal holding leaves between its jaws.

The head is about the size of an adults thumbnail - but its growing fairly quickly.

Hopefully someone will recognise it and tell me how to look after it.



UPDATE

Well this is how it looks now - its about 2 and a half inches tall - the 'seed pod' looks like its gonna fall off leaving the leaves to carry on by themselves.

It now looks a bit like a fern on one side and slightly different on the other side - even though both sides are coming out of the same stem.

There's great excitement in our house though, as we are all following its progress - we leave it on the kitchen window in the sun all day and then near a radiator at night. And I have given it some plant food.


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UPDATE AGAIN: I went on holidays a couple of weeks ago, leaving my husband in charge of looking after this plant ....

R.I.P poor plant. There was just a little tip poking out of the soil when I got back.

Fries-With-That 04-10-2009 08:42 PM

Omg
 
Hi BillieT,



I think its a triffid, be careful or you'll have the whole of portlaoise wiped out by giant flesh eating plants.



Sorry couldn't resist hahaha.


regards,

Fries.



If it was a pea like seed you should look up this plant 'rosary pea'

summersun 04-10-2009 08:43 PM

Hi BillieT,


How i wish i could tell you... the only thing i would say is that it wont be frost hardy, so keep it indoors somewhere light and WARM!!!! , wish i could hop on the plane to Florida to find out for you :-))))))))))))))))))


hope you get an answer...



take care
Summersun

BillieT 04-10-2009 08:54 PM

You know what Fries? (smarty pants) When it started to grow it looked like a flytrap kinda plant - I'm still not sure haha. If it grows teeth I will be offering it on here haha.
I wonder would it come under animals and pets though?

Its ok Summersun - I think I'll just have to persuade my hubby to take me back to find out.

But if anyone is going to Busche Gardens soon... It was in a flat round black seed pod.

Ruthy 04-10-2009 11:10 PM

Triffid?
 
I think you can relax, it's not a Triffid....

Don't know what it is, but have a fair idea it's doing one of two things. Seed plants have no roots to suck food out of the ground, so seeds have all the food a plant needs until it grows roots. Some seeds stay in the ground and the plant grows out of them, and the first two leaves often are different from the leaves that come after. I can't tell from the photo, but it might be that the greeny round things are the first leaves, and the others are the leaves that come after. On the other hand, some plants push the seed up out of the soil as they so on top like a crown, and the plant then starts to grow out of the "crown" thing. This looks a bit more like a seed that's been pushed upwards, split, and the new plant is growing out of it.

Its very green so probably healthy, keep us posted!

TickTock 05-10-2009 01:42 PM

Plant
 
Why not ask those clever folk in the Botanic Gardens to check out your photo? I'm sure they'll enjoy the puzzle and/or solve it for you. I was also wondering if bringing a seed from soil in one country and plant it in another is actually allowed or not. I know there are laws about roots but dunno about seeds.

MuddyWitch 05-10-2009 04:33 PM

I agree with Ruthie; the 'jaws' are in fact the little plant's seed leaves.

As for identifying it, we'll need to see the true leaves to help you properly. Give it a week or so & them post a new pic & we'll do our best. :)

MW

BillieT 05-10-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TickTock
Why not ask those clever folk in the Botanic Gardens to check out your photo? I'm sure they'll enjoy the puzzle and/or solve it for you. I was also wondering if bringing a seed from soil in one country and plant it in another is actually allowed or not. I know there are laws about roots but dunno about seeds.



I could send the pic to the experts I suppose, but this is just a bit of fun - anyway.
And I didn't exactly say that I brought it from one country to another - I said I picked it up in Florida and planted it...

BillieT 05-10-2009 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuddyWitch
I agree with Ruthie; the 'jaws' are in fact the little plant's seed leaves.

As for identifying it, we'll need to see the true leaves to help you properly. Give it a week or so & them post a new pic & we'll do our best. :)

MW



I'll do that MW - but I have to say its looking a little tired today - I have put it in a nice warm sunny spot so hopefully it will have picked up by tomorrow.

chucken1 06-10-2009 08:00 PM

It looks like a venus flytrap. I had a couple of them last year.great fun feeding them flies! Lol. Dead ones obviously!!

Etana 11-10-2009 08:52 PM

Seedling
 
Thats something in the pea family, (Fabaceae) do a search for Gleditsia or Saphora, they have the same leaves as your seedling. There are more but cant remember names, they grow quite well in this country.

Izzyizzy 11-10-2009 10:10 PM

Plant
 
Hi,
I think what you have there is a type of "vetch". These in the wrong place are considered to be a weed.

BillieT 12-10-2009 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzyizzy
Hi,
I think what you have there is a type of "vetch". These in the wrong place are considered to be a weed.




OOps.. No wonder it's so healthy. I think I will hold on to it for another while though. I think my sister stilll has one of the seed pods that it started off in. She didnt plant hers as far as I know. That might throw a bit more light on it.

Fries-With-That 12-10-2009 09:25 AM

Rosary Pea
 
I still think its a rosary pea, very common in florida, especially the theme parks.

Q. why were you looking at the ground with all those roller coasters around you.



Fries.

Bill_D 12-10-2009 01:39 PM

Plant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillieT
You know what Fries? (smarty pants) When it started to grow it looked like a flytrap kinda plant - I'm still not sure haha. If it grows teeth I will be offering it on here haha.
I wonder would it come under animals and pets though?

Its ok Summersun - I think I'll just have to persuade my hubby to take me back to find out.

But if anyone is going to Busche Gardens soon... It was in a flat round black seed pod.

Go online, type in where you found it, see what plants they got, and you may spot Mummy plant......:)


might be another Bush lol....teasin :)

BillieT 12-10-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fries-With-That
I still think its a rosary pea, very common in florida, especially the theme parks.

Q. why were you looking at the ground with all those roller coasters around you.



Fries.



Rosary Pea..... Now that sounds better than a weed. Thank you for that Fries. It's also better than a triffid lmao.

Why was I lookin on the ground?? I was under the rollercoaster waiting for the money to fall outa everyones pockets lol .. kidding.

I was actually sheltering from the flippin rain and all the kids were picking up the seed pods and pelting each other with them -So I took the first one that hit me.

Bill D - It wouldnt make any difference looking online - cos even if the mummy plant stood in front of me I wouldnt recognise her. - but thanks for the advice.

Ruthy 13-10-2009 12:27 AM

Triffid?
 
Yep, it's some type of vetch. Peas are vetches, so if someone thinks its a rosary pea, might be the answer.

Ruth

The Mammy 13-10-2009 09:03 AM

re plant
 
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Hi
I hope it's not a rosary pea...I googled and this came up

''The rosary pea (Kacang Polong Rosary)may sound sweet and downright pious, but it’s actually one of the most dangerous plants on earth. Its seeds contain a particular lectin known as abrin; if chewed and swallowed, death will follow shortly. The seeds are easily identified with their distinctive bright red jacket and single black dot (almost like a reverse Black Widow spider). Abrin, which does its damage by inactivating ribosomes, is one of the most fatal toxins on earth. After the vomiting, fever, nausea, drooling and G.I. dysfunction but before the bizarre hyperexcitability, edema and fatally convulsive seizures, renal tubular degeneration, bladder and retinal hemorrhage and widespread internal lesions typically develop.''

BillieT 13-10-2009 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mammy
Hi
I hope it's not a rosary pea...I googled and this came up

''The rosary pea (Kacang Polong Rosary)may sound sweet and downright pious, but it’s actually one of the most dangerous plants on earth. Its seeds contain a particular lectin known as abrin; if chewed and swallowed, death will follow shortly. The seeds are easily identified with their distinctive bright red jacket and single black dot (almost like a reverse Black Widow spider). Abrin, which does its damage by inactivating ribosomes, is one of the most fatal toxins on earth. After the vomiting, fever, nausea, drooling and G.I. dysfunction but before the bizarre hyperexcitability, edema and fatally convulsive seizures, renal tubular degeneration, bladder and retinal hemorrhage and widespread internal lesions typically develop.''



Are they the seeds? Those red things? Well if they are then my plant is not the rosary pea..
It DOES look like it though... But the seeds I picked up were like large apple pips.

Oh I'll give it another little while and see how it goes.

tigerlilly.100 13-10-2009 11:07 PM

Have you considered e-mailing a pic to the botanic gardens and see if they can tell you??
Could be the ticket, I would advise finding out sooner rather than later just in case, better safe than sorry!! ha ha (sort of)...
...not at all really, especially with some of those affects!!
OHHHH, I shudder at the thought!!

Lizzy40 14-10-2009 09:30 PM

Mystery seedling
 
It looks like part of the pea family, I was going to say it could be a galega, but reading other messages it could well be vetch aswell. Good luck in identifying your mystery plant.

summersun 14-10-2009 09:39 PM

Mammy, Mammy , Mammy, I grew up in Barbados... and this plant was the source of many hours of fantasy and fun for me... they were used as art bits ( still have some of the art work... they are glued to!!!, dolls food, money etc... and i never knew or was never told they are poisonous .... so it just shows you what you never know....

There was also a jumbo version of this plant with lovely bigger seeds!!!

Summersun ...


Any idea if this plant would survive in Ireland???

















Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mammy
Hi
I hope it's not a rosary pea...I googled and this came up

''The rosary pea (Kacang Polong Rosary)may sound sweet and downright pious, but it’s actually one of the most dangerous plants on earth. Its seeds contain a particular lectin known as abrin; if chewed and swallowed, death will follow shortly. The seeds are easily identified with their distinctive bright red jacket and single black dot (almost like a reverse Black Widow spider). Abrin, which does its damage by inactivating ribosomes, is one of the most fatal toxins on earth. After the vomiting, fever, nausea, drooling and G.I. dysfunction but before the bizarre hyperexcitability, edema and fatally convulsive seizures, renal tubular degeneration, bladder and retinal hemorrhage and widespread internal lesions typically develop.''


summersun 14-10-2009 09:43 PM

Billie,


Did you notice any long flat brown seed pods about 6 -7 inces long and about 1cm wide???

I will try to get Aidan to take a pic of the seeds i have and the seed pods ... as if its what i think it is , and this plant was rampant in Busch Gardens... its like a mimosa but a wild one with white flowers.... another childhood love of mine which is why i also picked up the seeds and seed pods!!!!


Sunny xxx

























Quote:

Originally Posted by BillieT
Are they the seeds? Those red things? Well if they are then my plant is not the rosary pea..
It DOES look like it though... But the seeds I picked up were like large apple pips.

Oh I'll give it another little while and see how it goes.


Izzyizzy 16-11-2009 06:31 PM

plant
 
Hi Billie T,
I think you have a "vetch" there.We have plenty of it growing out in the ditches here and it looks the same as what you have there. Go out into the fields and you will find it.

Happy hunting,
izzyizzy (Pam)

Chris P 16-11-2009 06:44 PM

The same?
 
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Pic #1 - Hairy Vetch
Pic #2 - BillieT's plant

BillieT 16-11-2009 06:50 PM

plant
 
Thats it Chris - thank you - alas now its doesnt matter what the poor dead thing is lol. Now I have this other one that I picked up at the same time .................. lol

bunnyblueeyes 17-11-2009 11:42 PM

Bunnyblueeyes
 
Hi Just to let you know ;the plant seedling you are displaying is a Mimosa it is a tender plant but once mature it can withstand the cold it is best kept in a warm place until the bark starts to form, Hope that is of help Bunnyblueeyes

pp3 17-09-2012 11:09 AM

Plant. I am familiar with it
 
this is Tamarind. Normally a big tree grown is really warm climate

Anne27 19-09-2012 10:44 AM

Foreign Plants
 
Is it just me or is it not illegal to take fawna/plants into our countries
unless checked??
unknown plants can cause untold damage to our crops/wildlife.

I cant remember all of this quote maybe somebody can finish,its regarding
visiting parks,farms etc,

Leave nothing but footprints,
Take nothing but pictures...............

cheers anne

molly99 26-10-2012 06:42 PM

could it be a persian silk tree? if so you are in luck as theyre hardy in ireland,

http://ferrebeekeeper.wordpress.com/...ian-silk-tree/
its a pretty tree

heyhey 03-01-2013 07:31 PM

pea?
 
think the leaf looks like a pea of some sort

gerg702 01-04-2013 05:05 PM

It's called Mimosa pudica (sensitive plant)
 
I had ! of these a long time ago and it died, their a very interesting plant and kids think their great the way the close, here's a link to a video on youtube about all the different names it has ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLTcVNyOhUc


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