Recycling charge

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Mentioned on JT already but no harm in doing so here

WEEE are doing a free collection from Tesco Clearwater Finglas and Ballymun Shopping centre car park on 20th Sept 2008

[CleoCy]

You may not be aware that much of the, supposedly being recycled, waste is shipped abroad, to countries such as India, China, etc, to be recycled there! Great for a carbon footprint, isn't it?

In North Wales, where we lived previously, our local civic amenity site had the option that we could buy items dumped by others. Which meant, of course, that if you needed a part for an old machine like an old washing machine, or you wanted cheap garden tools which needed minimal refurbishment, you could acquire these at very low cost. When I went to our local civic amenity site, in Mayo, and saw something that I wanted to recycle, I was told that I could not purchase anything on site, except the bags for dumping, and of course, the composters, as everything else was sold on to be recycled. What every happened to the Re-use bit of the slogan?

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by CleoCy

...waste is shipped abroad, to countries such as India, China...What every happened to the Re-use bit of the slogan?

Hi CleoCy,

We at JumbleTown have been making these points for quite some time but as you state, recycling creates jobs and money whereas the more environmentally sound practice of re-use/life-cycling doesn't really.

Re: China, please see jackbauer's post #7 on the thread below:
http://www.jumbletown.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=4528

Regards
Chris P
Admin

[theoleary]

In Germany at a local council recycling centre (and rubbish tip) I noticed that a complete building was provided for stuff to be left in, out of the rain, for people to take away. Furniture, appliances - anything that was in working condition. I asked about such a system here (in Cork) - the reply was along the line of "oh no we couldn't do that - then people would be coming in here and taking things away!"!
Similarly - in Boston there were shelves provided in a sort of roofed over but open shed where you could put up books, and of course take away any you wanted. Great fun. Some of the train stations in NJ have or had a system for leaving your read books for others to read, and leave somewhere else.

[kiara]

Originally Posted by theoleary

In Germany at a local council recycling centre (and rubbish tip) I noticed that a complete building was provided for stuff to be left in, out of the rain, for people to take away. Furniture, appliances - anything that was in working condition. I asked about such a system here (in Cork) - the reply was along the line of "oh no we couldn't do that - then people would be coming in here and taking things away!"!
Similarly - in Boston there were shelves provided in a sort of roofed over but open shed where you could put up books, and of course take away any you wanted. Great fun. Some of the train stations in NJ have or had a system for leaving your read books for others to read, and leave somewhere else.

i love this idea! but if you did it here you would probably face a littering fine!

[TanTan]

just lately bought a new washing machine and shop delivery man took our old one. My husband said in the shop where we bought the new one "sure someone might need the old one for parts" and the lovely lady said "well you stop the vans on the road meet in the morning and load up one full or sometimes two vans and straight to the dump. Some people might be only upgrading their old product like a TV or microwave she said and peg out the old one which is in perfect condition".

PS made a lovely birdbath out of door glassbowl for the garden........

[theoleary]

Had a chat with the lady who runs the Cork tip sorry Civic Amenity centre at Rafeen. I asked her about taking stuff away and was told it was forbidden (at least while she was around, or looking.....). She was a bit embarrassed - she said her hands were tied by legalities and insurance but that the main reason was the Government had implemented the Re-Cycle section of the EU directive (the WEEE I presume) but had not implemented the Re-Use section. Any legal eagle out there know what she meant??

[misstake]

i work in a electrical store who take in the old stuff Got me a fantastic telly and vidio there last week in perfect working order lol anyway this store used to leave the WEE in the yard in the back where you could take bits and pieces off the stuff Until people came took parts and left stuff all over the yard Then they stole from other stores who had stuff waiting to be delivered into the stores Needless to say we had to stop anyone coming into the yard as it was dangerous and was a headache for security

[theoleary]

Yes misstake - I appreciate this is a problem I recall driving into a dump 20 or so years ago with a trailer load of stuf - freezer and so on. BEFORE the car had come to a stop, 2 guys from competing families of Travellers had leapt on the trailer and started to drag stuff off. All around there was chaos - someone chopping through a fridge and Freon spewing out etc. So there is a serious problem with allowing "amateurs" on-site. But there must be some way to regulate this and make it possible to find spare parts, or indeed make a low-level living finding spare parts and repairing stuff for people.

[Grange99]

Tuddleytops,

The return of electrical waste is under the WEEE regs, 2005. That is waste electrical, electronic equipment. From the 13th of August 2005 if you buy for example a kettle you will pay a recycl;ing fee of say approx 5 euro on top of buying the kettle. It would be mentioned (recylcing fund). The idea then is that you bring back your old kettle, freezer, toaster, computer etc for free.

The landfill would have a recylcing charge on that. Another option without paying at the landfill is keep an eye on papers for free recycling days orgnised by your local county council.

Best regards,

Grange 99

[garrazzaband]

Originally Posted by theoleary

I've noticed B&Q in Mahon Point have a bin inside the door (beside Customer Service) that seems to have all sorts of smaller electrical recycling in it - and I saw stuff in there like cassette players that I know B&Q don't sell, so maybe this is a service they offer - good idea - it would bring more people into their store.

On the other hand - the Cork City Council (or whatever they are called this week) Amenity Centre (ie dump) on the Kinsale Road DOES charge for recycling - outrageous! (Cork County Council sites do not charge for recycling)
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Kinsale Road Civic Amenity/Recycling Centre
Members of the public may dispose of the following recyclable materials for a fee of €2.00. All other waste will be charged at the appropriate rate.

* Aluminium Drink Cans *
* Glass Bottles *
* Clean Plastic Bottles (e.g. PET (plastic mineral bottles) *
* HDPE (shampoo bottles) *
* Milk bottles (plastic only) *
* Tetrapaks *
* Cardboard (Boxes should be flattened)
* Newspapers and Magazines
* Batteries
* Scrap Metal
* Waste Engine Oil
* Food Cans *
===================

The council amenity at Youghal (which is run by Cork County Council) have recently introduced a charge of €3 euros to walk through the gate and deposit recycling material. ,,,Robbers!. No wonder my beautiful lanes are covered with dumped bags...

[briansbgc]

You don't, not in my local recycleing center, get your facts right

[Izzyizzy]

Hi everyone.
I live in Co.Waterford and use a private company for refuse collection. We have 2 bins and I pay 75 euro every three months. the bins are collected on alternate weeks. Glass goes to recycling bins locally. I am sure this is expensive enough but they are there without fail on the allocated day and I am happy to have my waste collected from my front gate. Have a good weekend everyone.
Izzyizzy

[cathy]

our recycling centre charge €2.00 car enterance, but its free to recycle green waste???

[garrazzaband]

Originally Posted by brian-k-k

You don't, not in my local recycleing center, get your facts right

I paste in the following paragraph regarding what was said on this subject at the local council meeting by a councillor:-


"New recycling charges
Cllr Linehan Foley said the new 3 gate fee at the civic amenity
site was unfair and counter productive. She said it would exacerbate
illegal dumping, whereas the original concept of free recycling
was to educate and encourage responsible waste disposal.
The Town Manager said Cork County Council provides both residential
and recycling services. She said the costs are extremely
high, with the Council providing facilities for the authority’s customers
and non-customers. She highlighted glass disposal as one
example of this. Recyclable material had the to be taken away,
which incurred further cost.
Cllr Hennessy said a flat fee should replace the ’pay-by-weight’"

You can verify this by checking out : 'Youghal News' newspaper, edition february 2009, Page 6. Or contacting Cllr Linehan.

Hope this helps to clarify 'fee charges at some council recycling centres'.